Re: Bad Consultant....
Mar. 4th, 2004 07:50 amSince everyone wants to know what the profs I talked with yesterday was:
They weren't entirely clear, but I believe it is the industrial-version of a silicon-wafer processing unit.
The main frame of the unit is an 8' cube and weighs 13k pounds. They thought it'd be easy since the freight elevator lift-gate into the loading dock is a little bigger than 8'. I pointed out to them that while the dock gate is 8'x8', the doors on the other end of the elevator that let you into the building are only 7'x7', and the elevator is only rated for 8k pounds.
Honestly, I don't even know who you'd talk to about taking an entire section of outer wall out of the building for something like this.
Then we got into utilities. This machine basically requires a dedicated fume hood line. This would be easy two years ago, before the law changed. Then you could plug it into the existing exhaust riser in the corner of the building. Now, you need a separate exhaust line in a 4-hour fire-rated chase, leading to a separate blower on the building roof. I guessed $200k from 8th floor to 16th floor (the roof) based on an estimate for a lab I'm working on where it was $80-90k to go from 12th floor to the roof.
Getting to the roof isn't easy - the 12th to 16th floor line was listed at 160' of ductwork for a 70' vertical climb, because of all the equipment you have to go around (this is a 35-year old building with a lot of stuff in it).
The rest of the utilities (power, water, etc.) are already in place, and would only be a few thousand to hook up.
Finally, you'd have to take the price tag for this operation (about $250k, plus the machine, which is another $100-150k), and get the College's approval. Then you get campus approval, State Building Commission approval, and finally, legislative approval and the Governor's signature. All this takes at least two and usually 3-5 years, by which time one of the professors may not even be here, if he didn't get tenure.
They weren't entirely clear, but I believe it is the industrial-version of a silicon-wafer processing unit.
The main frame of the unit is an 8' cube and weighs 13k pounds. They thought it'd be easy since the freight elevator lift-gate into the loading dock is a little bigger than 8'. I pointed out to them that while the dock gate is 8'x8', the doors on the other end of the elevator that let you into the building are only 7'x7', and the elevator is only rated for 8k pounds.
Honestly, I don't even know who you'd talk to about taking an entire section of outer wall out of the building for something like this.
Then we got into utilities. This machine basically requires a dedicated fume hood line. This would be easy two years ago, before the law changed. Then you could plug it into the existing exhaust riser in the corner of the building. Now, you need a separate exhaust line in a 4-hour fire-rated chase, leading to a separate blower on the building roof. I guessed $200k from 8th floor to 16th floor (the roof) based on an estimate for a lab I'm working on where it was $80-90k to go from 12th floor to the roof.
Getting to the roof isn't easy - the 12th to 16th floor line was listed at 160' of ductwork for a 70' vertical climb, because of all the equipment you have to go around (this is a 35-year old building with a lot of stuff in it).
The rest of the utilities (power, water, etc.) are already in place, and would only be a few thousand to hook up.
Finally, you'd have to take the price tag for this operation (about $250k, plus the machine, which is another $100-150k), and get the College's approval. Then you get campus approval, State Building Commission approval, and finally, legislative approval and the Governor's signature. All this takes at least two and usually 3-5 years, by which time one of the professors may not even be here, if he didn't get tenure.
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Date: 2004-03-04 10:26 am (UTC)